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Students Storm Faculty Meeting as Part of Protest Against Sexual Assault on Campus

Students storming faculty meeting in protest against Tau Kappa Epsilon

As journalists, we use the word ‘alleged’ to describe all accusations that do not have convictions attached to them. We do not use the word to diminish the experience of survivors. We believe you. 

Many quotes in this article are anonymous—students spoke about very personal and traumatizing experiences and we want to protect the privacy and safety of those brave enough to speak out. 

Some TKS staff, including EIC Ellen Miller-Garrett were involved in the protests. None of the staff who actively participated in the incitement, execution, or aftermath of the protest were involved in the reporting of the events.

Content Warning: This article contains mentions of sexual assault and racism.

Students and and faculty streamed out of Alumni Hall around 7 p.m. that night.

The crowd had been in the Trustees Room for almost two hours on Monday, March 6, after a large crowd of students interrupted the faculty meeting in order to express their opposition to the lack of action from the administration regarding sexual assault at Knox College

The protest started three hours earlier on the lawn outside of the Tau Kappa Epsilon (TKE) fraternity house. TKE drew criticism across the campus after their ‘Delusions’ party this past Friday.

The “Delusions” party registered on Engage.

Photo by TKS Staff

TKE held their registered party ‘Delusions’ on Friday, March 3, at which organizers created a ‘YikYak wall’ containing printed posts of users attacking the fraternity through the anonymous social media application ‘YikYak’. These posters included sexual assault accusations made against TKE’s members, that in the context of theme, appeared to be calling the accusations and accusers delusional.

TKE denied that this was the intent of the party theme.

When asked for a response to these events, TKE president Justin Garcia had this to say:

“Regarding the YikYak wall, we are deeply apologetic for the harm that it caused to anyone who viewed it. We wished to post an apology to our official Instagram page, but we no longer have access to it at this time. So if this apology could be broadcast to the rest of campus that would be lovely.

We take SA very seriously and by no means were we trying to ridicule or make fun of anyone who has experienced SA. Our intention was to let the Knox campus know that we hear and see the comments and accusations against us and are actively working on improving with those comments in mind. This obviously was not the message that was received by the general body. The message and the perception are often not the same, therefore, regardless of our intention the onus is on us to understand the student body and create a space that is comfortable and safe for them should we want to invite them to our house. 

We are glad that people are voicing themselves and are wanting change, we want to change as well. Here is an anonymous report form where anyone can give concerns, critiques, and complaints that can be directly shown to the members of TKE for further discussion on the path to improving ourselves and our organization. 

That being said, I would like to acknowledge that several people were harmed during the protest from being pushed over by the protestors. Several more experienced bad sensory reactions and mental health issues because of the protest. The safety of others, related to TKE or not, should not have to be jeopardized to practice your right to protest. Again, we want you to be heard, but in a safe way.”

The ‘Wall of Yaks’ in the TKE house.

Photo by TKS Staff

It was also reported by students who attended the party that the ID inspection—a process that requires Knox students to show IDs in order to enter the party—was lenient. Therefore, high school students, who wore ski masks and appeared to be inebriated, were able to join in the event, according to some reports.

“The high schoolers were wearing ski masks. We don’t even know what they looked like. One was walking around playing with himself walking back and forth,” senior Isaiah Simon said.

YikYak, Snapchat stories, and word of mouth quickly spread the details about the event across campus. Students took to YikYak once again, further criticizing the members of the fraternity and the choice of the term ‘delusional’ to refer to sexual assault allegations.

Upvote if you agree that Tke sucks and that any problematic frat members from any frat on campus should be kicked out of said fraternity.” —Mar. 6 (44 upvotes)

You heard it here first! Tkes will SA you, throw a party calling you delusional, then get annoyed when you’re upset!” —-Mar. 6 (36 upvotes)


The Instagram of Knox’s Students Against Sexism in Society, or @knox.sass, denounced the actions taken by TKE on the night of March 3 in an Instagram post on the morning of March 6.

After learning of the ‘Yak Wall’ posted at the Tau Kappa Epsilon registered party on March 3rd, we would like to denounce the actions taken by the fraternity on that night. We declare this wall to be damaging and insensitive to survivors of sexual assault. We here at Students Against Sexism in Society will work to repair the harm and distrust TKE has caused. We call for TKE to publicly apologize for the wall and take action to improve the caliber of their organization. To any survivors affected by these actions, we support you. We believe you.“

Then, someone on YikYak announced the planned protest at 4 p.m.Monday, outside the TKE house.

Anonymous Yak announcing the protest.

Photo by TKS Staff

Posters also appeared around campus, advertising the protest and detailing allegations against TKE. It is unclear who made the original poster, but some students like junior Angelica Debenedictis took one and made copies, posting them all over campus.

Poster advertising the protest.

Photo by TKS Staff

Some Yaks claimed that Assistant Director for Campus Life Amanda Dermer was seen taking down posters announcing the protest.

“Any posters removed by staff regarding the protest were only removed if they named other specific community members by name.” said Dermer in response. “We received several reports about what transpired during the event and are taking steps to address them. All fraternities and other organizations are expected to adhere to College policies and when that doesn’t happen, the College investigates. The alleged behaviors stand in contrast to the College’s values and Fraternity/Sorority Life (FSL) community values and expectations, and I will continue to work with FSL leaders to ensure incidents like this do not happen in the future.”

The Yak Claiming Dermer removed some of the protest posters, as well as other Yak’s against TKE.

The protest started small, with about 20 students chanting “Fuck TKE” at the front of the house. Some students brought signs with slogans such as “Survivors aren’t delusional,” “Ban TKE,” and “Support Survivors.”

“As a member of the Knox college community and a member of the FSL community it is important for me to stand up against behavior that I think is inappropriate and harmful to the people on our campus,” junior Quinn Norton said.

Students moved to the back of the house in an attempt to reach members of TKE that may have been in their bedrooms. “Hey, hey, ho ho, TKE has got to go”  and “Survivors aren’t delusional” were chanted as the crowd grew to be almost 80 students.

“I don’t think TKE is what represents Knox and Knox students,” junior Chanice Dudley said. “They are ruining the community by openly creating an unsafe space.”

Many students used terms like “long-standing pattern” to describe the alleged assaults of TKE.

“The administration isn’t doing shit about it,” sophomore Delia Lonnroth said.

The protesters lobbed toilet paper and climbed onto TKE’s porch, stomping and knocking loudly, asking the TKE members to come out and address them. Protesters rallied around junior Angelica Debenedictis and senior Sage Lundquist who gave short speeches to energize the crowd. As members of TKE continued not to show their faces, the chants turned to “Cowards” and “TKE come out.”

Protesters on TKE’s porch.

Photo by TKS Staff

Soon, the protesters began to switch focus, asking  “Where’s Amanda [Dermer]?” and “Where’s Kim Schrader [Knox’s Title IX Coordinator]?”

When asked for her response to the protesters asks Schrader responded with this statement:

“I serve as the College’s Title IX coordinator in a complex role that includes the administration of the College’s Investigation and Resolution Procedures for Allegations of Title IX Sexual Harassment, Sexual Misconduct, and for coordinating response to incidents of discrimination, harassment, and sexual violence as defined by the Knox Policy Against Title IX Sexual Harassment and Sexual Misconduct. I am also responsible for ensuring institutional compliance with Title IX regulations. In addition I support members of the campus community in help-seeking and reporting, educational initiatives, environmental and culture-change strategies, enforcement and accountability.”

Protestors were not acknowledged by TKE members and soon moved the protest to the Campus Life office around 4:30 p.m. to ask the staff to respond to their demands.

The chants shifted to “Ban TKE,” “Campus Life do your jobs,” and demanding staff members to respond as the ever-growing protest filled the lobby of Seymour Union.

Deb Southern addressing students sitting outside the Campus Life office

Photo by TKS staff

Students continued to chant, “What do we want?” “Answers” “When do we want them? Now.”

They clapped their hands and banged on walls and doors.

When this still received no response from those in the Campus Life Office, the protesters decided to sit until someone came to listen and give answers.

Assistant Dean of Campus Life Jacob McLean was in his office during the protest.

“I was in my office on Monday afternoon,” he said. “It was our understanding that the protest was happening at the TKE house and my team was not available to attend. I was attending to some student questions in my office and was not available to address the crowd that gathered at the Campus Life office. I plan to attend the forum this evening in the Gizmo ahead of midnight breakfast. If any students wish to talk, I’d also be happy to schedule some time to do so.”

Assistant Vice President and Dean of Students Deb Southern entered the lobby and offered to open up Ferris Lounge for students to discuss what they wanted. “No” was the resounding response to this offer.

“We will hold our ground,” said one student.

Southern tried to contact Vice President for Student Development Dr. MarQuita Barker to address the protesters, but received no response.

Dr. Barker, and the President of the College Andy McGadney were in the monthly faculty meeting.

So nearly 90 students then went to Alumni Hall, lining the walls of the Trustees Room to address the faculty and administration.

Students addressing the faculty from the front of the room.

Photo by TKS staff.

Students took turns speaking and sharing their frustrations.

“The fact that the campus life workers just hid in the office and refused to address us (the students) as a group it’s just disrespectful,” said one student.

“Sexual assault is violence. We are not being violent and [the Campus Life employees] are afraid of us,” said another.

Students accused staff of not taking action on the TKE issue and other issues of discrimination on campus.

They also expressed complaints about the Title IX process at Knox being ineffective.

McGadney responded to the accusations by thanking those present and urging victims of sexual assault to report their experiences in the report form offered on the Title IX section of Knox’s website.

“I want to make sure you recognize that we are listening. We never left. I want you to recognize that we stayed here to make sure we all listened to what you had to say. Thank you for coming in and sharing your experiences. One of the things that I try to keep is to have institutional grace. I hear the concerns and complaints and we do try to meet with you all. The reason we want the report is to have a record. If we have a record we can respond to those things. I want this campus to be safe. We care. My door is open if you want to talk. I do not want to walk away from things, but how am I supposed to do things if you don’t share what happened?”

“There have been reports. There has been a plethora of reports. I remember telling you about the racist issues that have been happening. I was very transparent. None of this is new. Let’s be honest about the situation. Say Knox is wrong! These things are being reported!” Simon said.

Some students said they have filled out Bias Report Forms and received no response. Others shared that the forms were hard to find on the Knox website.

“You say that we can report it but the truth is that your reports are not accessible. Until now I have not found whatever link they say there is to report racism on this campus. I have scrolled on my.knox for hours, I have looked through senate minutes, and I have not found one single clue. [..] I feel like I am yelling into an abyss and no one is answering me,” first-year Precious Odejimi said.

“Let’s be clear and recognize that no college is perfect. Knox is not perfect. I am not perfect. I make mistakes,” replied President McGadney. “I should have come to meet with you all last week when I first heard about it. I will lean in more. You’ve got to recognize that I would not be standing here if I didn’t care. We love you and we’ll continue to work harder.”

McGadney addressing the protesters.

Photos by TKS staff

Other students accused the College of caring more about donor money than the safety of their students.

“TKE has been known as the ‘Rape Frat’ since I was a freshman. And I am graduating now. I know that we have many TKE alumni that finance the school, but at what point will your student’s safety become more important than the money?” Sage Lundquist said.

Some students were in favor of eliminating fraternities entirely at Knox College.

“What is so special apparently about a fraternity that a cultural organization does not do?” one student asked McGadney.

“I wouldn’t say it’s ‘special.’ It is just, for some, a place they can find what they are looking for on campus,”  McGadney responded.

According to the students, what they are currently looking for on campus is safety.

Simon and Debenedictis mentioned declining enrollment, blaming the toxic culture on campus as the reason that students are leaving.

Some faculty left as the protest continued past 6 pm, and then 6:30 pm. But many stayed to hear the stories and needs of their students.

“This is a cultural problem, and it starts with y’all,” Simon said, addressing the faculty directly.

“If you guys want students, you better keep us safe. We all came here because we love Knox, and we need to see you stand up for what Knox is, are you going to do that?” DeBenedictis said.

“I will,” Visiting Assistant Professor of Educational Studies Mary Lyons said, standing to show her support. Slightly over half the professors in the room stood after her in solidarity with the protestors.

Professors standing in solidarity with students.

The protest ended after about three hours, once students had shared all their comments. McGadney expressed his approval of the movement and promised an investigation of the sexual assault cases involving fraternity members.

“I am in favor of student protest. I am in favor of students using their voices. But I’ll have to tell you to fill out the forms so we can investigate and hold people accountable. Let me be clear about my actions. We will investigate it, figure it out and we’ll act on that,” McGadney said.

The day after the event, faculty and departments began sending out statements to students, offering spaces to talk safely and reaffirming their commitment to supporting student safety.

Students created a document listing the next steps to keep the momentum of the protest moving. They list who to email about complaints, links to report forms, links to TKE Risk Management Guidelines, and the Knox College Title IX and Alcohol policies. .

CORRECTION: A previous version of this article omitted a part of the TKE President’s statement. This has been rectified. 3/8/23

UPDATE: Amanda Dermer, Kim Schrader, and Jacob McLean all sent in responses to requests to comment, they have been added to the piece. 3/8/23


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    PadraigMar 12, 2023 at 11:23 am

    what a bore

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    Knox PersonMar 9, 2023 at 9:38 pm

    As a person who supports the cause of the protest, I don’t necessarily agree with the way it was carried out. Granted, first-time protests aren’t perfect. But yelling at people, calling them cowards, and flipping them off (especially international students) just hurts the cause. I also hope to see a more holistic view about the protest in the near future because there are a bunch of people (apart from TKEs), who don’t support the protest. As an unbiased organization, it is important that all sides are represented. There is a list of allegations mentioned in the protest but none of the allegations talk about how some of the protestors misbehaved with passerbys. Some aspects of the protest were pretentious as well. A friend of mine was told to "couch hop" by Campus Life when he wanted help with housing. Though he appreciates the sentiment, he doesn’t appreciate not being asked first. On top of that, he was flipped off and called a coward too, indicating that the protestors didn’t even know who he was yet were representing his cause. Hence, the pretentiousness. Obviously, the entire cause shouldn’t be delegitimized because of that. It would be nice to see a balanced view as well.

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      knox foxMar 27, 2023 at 6:26 pm

      it’s frustrating to see people watching from afar and not supporting the protest. it’s cowardly to sit back and let others bring about change while you sit back and watch. it’s cowardly to sit on the sidelines and not support the protestors and victims of SA. I was at the protest and I was pissed to see the other frats have members cowardly watching from their porches and seeing groups of guys watching from far away. if you were truly for the protest you wouldve been on the front lines with the protestors

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    Knox PersonMar 9, 2023 at 9:22 pm


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    SMC WhaleMar 8, 2023 at 7:40 pm

    Wow another protest from woke white people at Knox I wonder what’s going to happen after (nothing)

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    mrgolfMar 8, 2023 at 2:55 pm

    Fraternities have an issue with rape and assault, omg what a new concept.
    There’s an interesting matter that could come out from this, and has very been subtly hinted at that is unfortunately covered by loads of garbage. There is an important conversation that is badly needed about rape culture, but all the energy will probably just focus on ‘frat bad’ and die down like it always has, until another frat takes the ‘ rape frat’ title. There seems to be a stronger effort to find someone to point a finger at than actually thinking of what can be done. Well it’s tke’s fault, they’re not answering, then it’s amanda’s fault, she’s not answering, it’s kims fault, she’s not answering, its deb southerns fault, she’s not answering, it must be andy’s fault etc etc’. Of course, finding out who is in charge can help with establishing responsibility, but it probably doesnt help too much with solving the rape problem. Don’t worry i know u were assaulted but dont worry i sure let andy know whats up. With such a large rally, that anger could be channeled into effecting real change in the Knox college bubble, but will probably just disperse back out into the ether.
    The first step to solving an issue is to identify it.
    If we were to put rape culture on a very reductive scale we would have ‘everyone is a rapist so noone ever leaves their home ‘ on one end and ‘ giga utopia noone rapes ‘ on the other.
    No rapists |————————————————————————————-| all rapists
    Obviously, we are not in either situation, so we must figure out where on the scale we are. For the most part, most people are not rapists, nor have any rapey tendencies so already we might put society around here:

    No rapists |——————()——————————————————————-| all rapists

    In the past couple of years, especially with metoo movements and the strong ‘men dont rape’ messaging, there has been some more shifts, that could put us much closer than we think to a good point.
    No rapists |———-()—————————————————————————| all rapists

    The interesting conversations start here. We got pretty far with more or less broad messaging, but now need to look into more of the difficult, case by case, multifaceted issues that contribute to rape culture. Given the situation, we all more or less figured out that something links to high probabilities of rape that range from horny college frat bros to the Harvey Weinsteins of the world.
    Everyone’s goal is to get as close as possible to the no rape utopia, but we’ve reached a point where all the easy to address parts of rape culture have more or less been figured out; strangers randomly approaching and raping people is very uncommon, the weird concubine multiple wives random bullshit is all outlawed etc etc, so the question is what do we look into now?
    There seems to be a big issue in sex dynamics between men and women where men are somewhat incentivised to push push push until getting a somewhat unenthused or pressured consent ( ‘ can we do X? Not sure? ok…. R u sure we cant do X? Can you think about it?….. Come on why cant we do X? Sure? Alright! “ ) , whilst women are incentivised to be more coy and non forthcoming with their intentions ( ’well i’m not sure, well maybe, i just dont think im in the mood now” ). It doesnt help when things like alcohol get involved or most young guys’ total lack of understanding of social and nonverbal cues goes into the equation, but it is important to take a peek to slowly unravel that so we can find ways to move on forward with less rapes.
    While we would all like and hope to live in an ideal world, we must acknowledge the current realities and learn to navigate the current situation whilst also slowly pushing for the ideal. This is a difficult task, and often had been left to former victims of assault to burden the weight and pass on advice to others. Unfortunately, for many things, “I didn’t do anything wrong, in fact I was right” doesn’t fix when we get wronged. Even if you have the right of way to cross a street, at the end of the day, even if a judge rules you were in the right and deserve compensation, none of that will matter when you’re dead, killed by the car that hit you. Because of that, you learn to look both ways, not to step out if a speeding car doesn’t look to slow down etc. In that same way, although unfortunate, we need to be able to teach and learn how to navigate those sorts of situations in the safest ways, even if it means no ‘justice’ or correction of actions, whilst slowly moving the overall landscape to cut that behavior out. That is unless you want to be a martyr and give ur best jesus on the cross impression but like how about no.
    How does that tie back to Knox? Well it seems like there is more energy towards ‘punishing the accused’ and very little toward – how do we prevent this moving forward, both on a personal level for anyone looking to enjoy party life safely, and on a more macro level for organizations and administration to assign liability and responsibility. Of course, holding perpetrators accountable will set a good precedent, and provide closure for victims, but means nothing without information, advice, and warnings for both possible future victims and perpetrators alike. As adults we are given personal agency over ourselves, and we should be taught to understand that and use it when we can to avoid people robbing us of it. For example from the issues above, Men should and need to be taught to not be as pushy in sexual encounters and to better understand nonverbal communication, and to understand to take no for an answer. For women, unfortunately, currently there are more things they have to be careful of, as they are more prone to be physically restrained and stuff, but a good start would be to have firmer boundaries before having encounters, and to more outwardly give a no. When giving a rejection, especially for college frat bros, ‘i’m not sure, maybe i’m not feeling it’ is going over their heads as a rejection, and all they’re hearing is a ‘if you push enough i might reward you’. If you get proposed something you don’t want to do, you need to learn to treat it with the same severity as if they were asking you to break your phone of throw you pet; you would never respond to that with ‘ well my phone just got cleaned, or well my cat looks tired so maybe later’, you would say’ absolutely not, don’t ask it again or even consider that” and in crazy scenarios just outright leave. I don’t know much at all about all the intricacies that go on, I’m not a party person so I have no idea if anything I say is even relevant, but you need to start somewhere that is not just ‘ herghhh frats bad herrgghhh’.

    Nothing here is at any point an endorsement of rape behavior from anyone, fraternity life included. Somewhere there’s a conversation about greek life’s influence on college campuses but i don’t know and haven’t thought too much into that so no comment there. I will say ‘ stop raping people’ as many times as needed, but given that that has been a major messaging point for the last couple years, it seems like most people who understood it got the memo and those who havent quite gotten it are gonna need a little more to understand. In terms of convicted title ix, i don’t know the process too well, but if it’s in any way similar to the official legal system, it is very difficult to get a conviction of an allegation, especially if most cases end up in ‘ my word vs their word’ situations, and ofc there’s a convo about that that’s also long and boring so oh well.
    I’d be very curious what the actual victims felt about this whole situation.

    On an almost seerate note, I love how, from the comment below, “The Movement has created a google group and a slack for organizing. reach out to Tristan Blus (Google group) and Ellen Miller Garrett (slack) for more info!” Ellen seems to be directly involved in the movement thing but then is simultaneously reporting articles related to it as journalism

    “Mar 6
    Written By Ellen Miller Garrett
    Knox Anon , Sigma Chi

    Either mention your personal involvement as a disclaimer, have your piece moved to an opinion section, or don’t publish it at all. Or maybe they are not involved at all and I’m reading things uncharitably.
    And also, the disclaimer at the top of the article about ‘alleged’… you say in one breath that they are simply alleged and not convicted, but then in the next say ‘ we believe you’. Perhaps that is simply a sympathy shoutout to the victims involved, but that feels like a ‘ i’m not saying they are convicted, but they totally are wink wink’ vibe idk.

    Also somewhat random, it seems weird to simply just bring back the sig chi drama article, like that was 2 years ago and all the members from that time are either gone or left the frat, so for all intensive purposes, the frat in its current form doesn’t really have any relation to the crazy stuff going on… unless there’s something going on that I don’t know of.

    Anyways, i dont know im just a random commenter what could I know, I typed this all up super quickly and messily. Maybe the protests will lead to some crazy reform that significantly curbs the rapes at Knox college and I’m proven completely wrong. Maybe I’m on a completely unhinged typing spree, who knows. Knox is all about bringing out the lil quirky fella in you so maybe mine is peeking out of my conscience. : )

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      birdieMar 8, 2023 at 9:37 pm

      journalism is not isolated from the rest of the world so of course journalists may also be activists towards the issues they cover. there is nothing wrong with having an opinion and writing articles about something youre passionate about. Ellen is a fantastic journalist and has been for several years – they know a thing or two about writing journalism. there is absolutely nothing wrong with them writing articles about their passions. to try and act like you’re uninvolved or uninterested in is a joke!

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      Eleanor LindenmayerMar 8, 2023 at 11:00 pm

      Hello, thank you for your comment. I would like to address your question about our impartiality. The Sig Chi piece written by EIC Ellen Miller-Garrett reports on events from two years ago. This article was written, edited, and published all before the events of Monday. Ellen has in no way contributed to any reporting on the protests since they became involved – as that would be a conflict of interest. But as the Sig Chi piece was entirely created before this movement even started, it is not a conflict of interest that they were the one covering the events.

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      Errol KaylorMar 9, 2023 at 5:55 pm

      I don’t have the energy to fully respond, but your car analogy really struck me as so close but so far! The issue isn’t individual drivers who choose to speed or pedestrians who don’t know to look both ways, it’s the design of the environment that encourages speeding and antagonistic views towards pedestrians. We redesign roads when data shows they aren’t safe, we don’t just say “people need to learn to be safer there” – does that make sense? We all hate road construction, but it’s necessary to building infrastructure that actually serves us and keeps us safe. Bringing this to greek life, removing individual members is insignificant as we are keeping the infrastructure that encourages new members to engage in the same behaviors!

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    TeaganMar 8, 2023 at 1:41 am

    Thank you for this article. I’m away from campus right now and wasn’t able to attend these events, so I really appreciate this incredibly well written article. Y’all are doing a great job. Thank you.

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    Tim AmiriMar 7, 2023 at 10:07 pm

    We stand against rape culture

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      Janet MrowkaOct 15, 2023 at 8:37 am


      I just stumbled across this. I don’t use social media a lot but since I’m recovering from a broken ankle I’ve been looking at different things more. I attended Knox College starting in 1974 and it seems that not much has changed. There was a major problem with sexism, racism and anti semetism when I attended Knox college. Rape and sexual attacks were always swept under the rug by the ministration it was been hush-hush especially if the people committing them came from money. They were at least two male professors that were dating and sleeping with students. Administration did nothing about it. Lots of crazy and inappropriate stuff happened while I was there. I was apalled and was saddened to read that here in 2023 Knox administration still isn’t handling these issues appropriately.

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    AngelicaMar 7, 2023 at 9:55 pm

    The Movement has created a google group and a slack for organizing. reach out to Tristan Blus (Google group) and Ellen Miller Garrett (slack) for more info!